Hello folks, Just bought one off of ebay, hoping to try out some archi shots of remaining vintage buildings in my town. Looking up some feedback from former owners. Read somewhere that generally you don't need it anymore since those corrections can be easily made in lightroom. Thanks Re: PC Nikkor 35mm f/2.8 Ais... How relevant is that today In reply to Ask Mait • Jan 12, 2017 It is correct. You lose definition or parts of the image with software correction though. Don't fully correct the verticals, leave just a bit of convergence for a natural appearance. -- hide signature -- Andrew Skinner Fujifilm X-T2 Fujifilm X-E3 Fujifilm X-H2 Fujifilm XF 35mm F1.4 R Fujifilm XF 14mm F2.8 R +7 more OP Ask Mait • Contributing Member • Posts: 958 Re: PC Nikkor 35mm f/2.8 Ais... How relevant is that today Right! thanks  Re: PC Nikkor 35mm f/2.8 Ais... How relevant is that today In reply to Ask Mait • Jan 13, 2017 3 I own one of the older (c. 1972) 35mm f/2.8 PC lenses. It is certainly true that high megapixel count cameras and ease of digital editing reduces the need for such a lens by quite a bit. If I could economically replace it with a 28mm or 35mm tilt shift lens, I'd probably do so. However, a Schneider 28mm is out of my price range, and the Arsat 35mm doesn't exactly have the best of reputations. However, I still take mine out to play when the mood strikes. I see three advantages in using a shift lens:
The 3rd point is totally subjective -- not everyone is going to see slowing down as an advantage. Take your new purchase out for a spin and see what you think! -- hide signature -- Such commentary has become ubiquitous on the Internet and is widely perceived to carry no indicium of reliability and little weight. (Digital Media News v. Escape Media Group, May 2014). Nikon Coolpix 995 Nikon D800 Nikon 1 V2 Nikon D7200 Panasonic Lumix DMC-GX85 +49 more OP Ask Mait • Contributing Member • Posts: 958 Re: PC Nikkor 35mm f/2.8 Ais... How relevant is that today thank you, will see how it goes for me. rolubich • Junior Member • Posts: 27 Re: PC Nikkor 35mm f/2.8 Ais... How relevant is that today In reply to Ask Mait • Jan 13, 2017 6 I have the last AIS version (black knob) which is reported to be better than the previous one. I consider it a very good lens that can be used at full shift too if you can stop it down to f/8 at least. As at full shift it has field curvature into the corners, you can increase corners sharpness finding the best focus position to maximize sharpness in the whole frame. Here is a test i have done with D700 (full resolution crops) first column = center second column = extreme angle third to fifth columns = extreme angle with shift last column = extreme corners extreme shift refocused on the corners You can notice that refocusing on the corner you gain at least one stop in terms of sharpness and have a good sharpness at f/8 and excellent at f/11. Here a real shot at f/11 Hope it helps OP Ask Mait • Contributing Member • Posts: 958 Re: PC Nikkor 35mm f/2.8 Ais... How relevant is that today In reply to rolubich • Jan 13, 2017 Many thanks, it helped definitely. So do you think the use of this lens is still better than trying to straighten/ stretch a building in something like Lr ? Also, I think typically you would use it with a tripod.. right? Thank you. OP Ask Mait • Contributing Member • Posts: 958 Re: PC Nikkor 35mm f/2.8 Ais... How relevant is that today Michael Benveniste wrote: Michael, I am going through your note again and again. could not understand what you mean by # 2. "putting extra pixel on target.." Is there something about using the lens on FF vs APS-C sensor? I have a D300 and a D700, I thought I could use the lens on any of them. Thanks. rolubich • Junior Member • Posts: 27 Re: PC Nikkor 35mm f/2.8 Ais... How relevant is that today In reply to Ask Mait • Jan 13, 2017 Ask Mait wrote: I was very satisfied about sharpness on D700, I think the lens outresolve the sensor, so you can have straight lines maintaining the D700 full resolution. If you straighten a picture in PP you loose sharpness in the stretched areas and you throw away some pixel when you crop the picture. But the remaining pixel could be more than enough, it depend on the final use. Yes, I always use a tripod for this kind of shots. Re: PC Nikkor 35mm f/2.8 Ais... How relevant is that today In reply to Ask Mait • Jan 13, 2017 Yes and yes probably. I've taken shifted pics hand held but tripod is probably easier. You can still make tiny changes in processing and have the best of both worlds. -- hide signature -- Andrew Skinner Fujifilm X-T2 Fujifilm X-E3 Fujifilm X-H2 Fujifilm XF 35mm F1.4 R Fujifilm XF 14mm F2.8 R +7 more Re: PC Nikkor 35mm f/2.8 Ais... How relevant is that today In reply to Ask Mait • Jan 13, 2017 1 Ask Mait wrote: Michael, I am going through your note again and again. could not understand what you mean by # 2. "putting extra pixel on target.." Is there something about using the lens on FF vs APS-C sensor? I have a D300 and a D700, I thought I could use the lens on any of them. I apologize for the confusion; what I was trying to get at is the same with either FX or DX. Let me see if I can explain with an example. Take the following "slushpile" shot, done without a shift lens. Note the triangular sections of background to either side of the building. When you correct this in post-processing, you end up throwing those parts of the image away. So capturing those pixels was effectively useless. Now, imagine shooting the same building with a shift lens. Once you've shifted, the sides of the building will hopefully be close to vertical. So now all of the pixels are "on target" rather than recording "stuff" that you'll end up throwing out in post. -- hide signature -- Such commentary has become ubiquitous on the Internet and is widely perceived to carry no indicium of reliability and little weight. (Digital Media News v. Escape Media Group, May 2014). Nikon Coolpix 995 Nikon D800 Nikon 1 V2 Nikon D7200 Panasonic Lumix DMC-GX85 +49 more OP Ask Mait • Contributing Member • Posts: 958 Re: PC Nikkor 35mm f/2.8 Ais... How relevant is that today I got it this time. thanks once again. OP Ask Mait • Contributing Member • Posts: 958 Re: PC Nikkor 35mm f/2.8 Ais... How relevant is that today In reply to Ask Mait • Jan 13, 2017 Thanks to Rolubich and Skinner. (unknown member) • Contributing Member • Posts: 987 Re: PC Nikkor 35mm f/2.8 Ais... How relevant is that today In reply to Ask Mait • Jan 14, 2017 I have found that using Photoshop (or whatever) to correct perspective never quite gets it right unless the corrections needed are very minor. You correct one set of lines and some others go awry. Maybe it's me, in fact, probably it is. In any case, I own a late-generation version of the 35mm f2.8 PC. The good news is that, on a full frame camera, it does a great job of perspective correction, just like in the old days of film photography. The bad news is that optically, it just does not make the leap to high-res digital all that well. The pictures tend to lack contrast and the resolution is so-so. Since these lenses can be purchased for quite reasonable prices it might be worth a try, but I found the old P.C lens disappointing. 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